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tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them, but it would be of watergate proportions. for people who don't want the numbers to trend, i suppose in a somewhat positive trend -- john harwood is not, this is not hos ana hosana is it's absurd and a complete distraction from what the report says and what's happening in the economy. >> john harwood gave excellent perspective. these numbers are not a celebration. this is a continuing story line. the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just poi
tony fredo is a former spokesperson from george w. bush. he tweeted out that the bureau of labor statistics is not manipulating data. evidence of such would be actually a scandal of enormous proportions and a loss of credibility. that's what he is saying but influence sal voices are saying the books are cooked, zachary. is that possible? >> i suppose anything is possible, but the layers of security under these numbers, they're released under lockdown. there's intense security around them,...
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. >> which is what george w. bush did against al gore. the next day the bush campaign talked about how al gore lied inside. this whole montage of gore rolling his eyes. and then actually the perception of the debate after the debate was that al gore had lost even though the people who watched it during the debate -- >> and who won the election? >> let's not get ahead of ourselves. >> i doubt the undecided voter is the main population watching the debate. the undecided voter is chearing the spin of the debates. >> big bird, we tend to watch these debates in a different way. one of the points that i have made with people that have called to complain about the president's performance is i would be interested in -- >> they're calling you up? >> i have a had he people that work in politics. what happened? why? why? one of the things i said is, you know, you have to sit in a roomful of, let's say women, who don't follow this every day and see how they perceived it. because i have had a few people say one of the things we're missing is that the
. >> which is what george w. bush did against al gore. the next day the bush campaign talked about how al gore lied inside. this whole montage of gore rolling his eyes. and then actually the perception of the debate after the debate was that al gore had lost even though the people who watched it during the debate -- >> and who won the election? >> let's not get ahead of ourselves. >> i doubt the undecided voter is the main population watching the debate. the undecided...
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i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that governor romney is a hugely competitive guy. but arguably the only person around more competitive is barack obama. and so there's, you know, this is 30 days out. i would think this would be a much bigger deal in terms of the tactical horse race if this were like 1980. if this debate had been on october 28th, i think this would be a much more -- have much more possibility of being truly transformative. i think it's hugely important, but, again, mark twain is dead. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to "the wall street journal." "
i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that...
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he sounded a hell of a lot more like george w. bush in terms of his world view. good versus evil and other things. two specific things that highlight that. one, he called for a middle east nation building czar. that's what he wants you as taxpayers to spend your money on, to do nation building. second, he built more naval ships, ships that the defense department and generals don't even want. so i think a lot of americans have got to ask, yeah, we've got a lead in the world but what in the heck are we doing, proposing that won't make america stronger and safer in the long run and those are the only two specifics that i can see that were really different from what president obama is actually doing. >> now, brian, you've used the word disarray about his foreign policy. what do you mean by that? >> well, he doesn't actually have clear positions on most issues. i think it's reflective of the american party today. you know, you've got a party that essentially says, government spending doesn't create jobs except when it's defense spending but then you have tea party fol
he sounded a hell of a lot more like george w. bush in terms of his world view. good versus evil and other things. two specific things that highlight that. one, he called for a middle east nation building czar. that's what he wants you as taxpayers to spend your money on, to do nation building. second, he built more naval ships, ships that the defense department and generals don't even want. so i think a lot of americans have got to ask, yeah, we've got a lead in the world but what in the heck...
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>> romney is going to have to do what he can to say, look, i'm not george w. bush. the entire message from obama from the beginning of the campaign has been the policies of bush got us into this -- >> how is he not george w. bush in terms of his economic policy? >> because he's been a much more successful record in business. george w. bush was owner of a baseball team and went straight to being governor of texas. mitt romney is an expert on turn-around. he can point on the olympics and all of the different cases and right now he can point to a turn-around campaign. no long knives are out. maybe this is the tagg romney turn-around in the romney campaign. >> that's good. >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> go ahead and finish up, jim. >> just observing that you mentioned earlier that you see the economy improve. we are back to only the second worst year for foreclosures in the past 17 years, so, yes we are better than we were in 2011. i don't know if this is necessarily where you want to be. i think the argument that 7.8% unemployment -- i'm not jumping into any jack welch con
>> romney is going to have to do what he can to say, look, i'm not george w. bush. the entire message from obama from the beginning of the campaign has been the policies of bush got us into this -- >> how is he not george w. bush in terms of his economic policy? >> because he's been a much more successful record in business. george w. bush was owner of a baseball team and went straight to being governor of texas. mitt romney is an expert on turn-around. he can point on the...
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that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000 debate. you can cut rich people's taxes by a whole lot of money and still have them pay the same share of the total. so that's what he was really saying. he said he's going to cut everybody's taxes by 20%. and then he said in the debate, we're not going to have tax cuts that add to the deficit. if this is math, it's math on meth. it just doesn't add up at all. and i think that's the issue that has to be raised over and over again. and then big bird is really a good illustration of how, in addition to the tax cuts and military spending, all he talks about is big bird and has to be turned on him. >> in terms of the way the president tried to make that case during the first debate, that's what the president returned to over and over and over again. that's why he kept saying $5 trillion in defense spending and how expensive the tax cuts were going to be. the president was trying to make that case but wasn't able to connect with it. is there a way that he -- in your view, he should go back to tryi
that's exactly what george w. bush said in the 2000 debate. you can cut rich people's taxes by a whole lot of money and still have them pay the same share of the total. so that's what he was really saying. he said he's going to cut everybody's taxes by 20%. and then he said in the debate, we're not going to have tax cuts that add to the deficit. if this is math, it's math on meth. it just doesn't add up at all. and i think that's the issue that has to be raised over and over again. and then big...
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what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and you can use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction, and you can full that $17,000 bucket and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll/simpson did by limiting deductions. >> it's bucket and spades and he'll work it out with congress. is that a plausible resp
what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael,...
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like george w. bush's 1978 loss. that's where they lose. >> romney got annihilateded by ted kennedy. just devastated. it is an eye opener to watch him in his very first debate get completely slaughtered. it was amazing and everybody in our film says that was the moment. where he said wait a minute, i better grow up. >> so, he responded one way. president obama responded another? >> well, obama had a different problem, too, which is that michelle has never really wanted him to be in politics. >> she didn't look really happy in that clip, by the way. >> no, and if you're carrying that around with you until the big bang moment, the 2004 speech in boston, you have a thing ticking in the back of your head that says maybe tht not the business i should be in. >> do you explain that, how it is so tough for a politician with a reluctant spouse who is saying honey, please, don't choose this line of business. do you guys go into that? >> it can be really hard for a politician or a spouse, including members of their own party. a
like george w. bush's 1978 loss. that's where they lose. >> romney got annihilateded by ted kennedy. just devastated. it is an eye opener to watch him in his very first debate get completely slaughtered. it was amazing and everybody in our film says that was the moment. where he said wait a minute, i better grow up. >> so, he responded one way. president obama responded another? >> well, obama had a different problem, too, which is that michelle has never really wanted him to...
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i think george w. bush would have called that the soft bigotry of low expectations. instead of saying let's look at the structural problems before you get to the point you're applying to college and go back. when we live in a society where the unemployment rate for college educated people is 4% and people without a high school diploma is 11% and when african-american latino unemployment is what is causing our unemployment rate to be near 8% because if you look at white unemployment, white female unemployment it's 6%. when you understand the core of the problem starts in preschool where children are not prepared and by third grade, black, hispanic and white students begin to diverge not because there's something wrong with the black and hispanic students but communities where -- >> dr. dyson -- >> thank you. the appropriate acknowledgement. >> when you have poverty, i've talked to people in education who say i cannot get kids to pass a standardized test when they're falling asleep on their desk in the morning because they're hungry, haven't had breakfast because they
i think george w. bush would have called that the soft bigotry of low expectations. instead of saying let's look at the structural problems before you get to the point you're applying to college and go back. when we live in a society where the unemployment rate for college educated people is 4% and people without a high school diploma is 11% and when african-american latino unemployment is what is causing our unemployment rate to be near 8% because if you look at white unemployment, white...
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>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades. so absolutely, we're not blaming, you know, our predecessor, by any means. but we don't think we should return to the same policies that crashed the economy. >> exactly. stephanie cutter, by the way, good job competing with chuck todd sitting next to you. >> say hi to chuck todd yelling right next to me. >> i know, he's right next to me. >> good luck there. >> we appreciate it. so mark mckinnon, they do have a problem, actually, the buried remarks over the past four years, that's -- i mean, you heard stephanie saying, well, actually, we've created all these new jobs. that seems to go agains
>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades....
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i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in some ways they have been more skillful and more ruthless in the way that they have moved the levers of power. in washington and outside of washington, to get stuff done. >> joy, i don't think the republicans have a karl rove a. malignant sense of power, i'm going to be the architect and i'm going to rule and they are spreading the money around and trying to get back the power. it does seem almost obsessive, the love of the white house. >> i think eugene robinson is right. for conservatives, the idea of being the cowboy, they like the self-image f
i mean, look, nixon, reagan, george w. bush, republican presidents have learned how to get stuff done at times in the face of congress and sometimes controlled by the other party. you know, this whole notion of the imperial presidency that arose under nixon, not coincidentally, a republican, i think you said it was kind of a tori sensibility. but it's really a concentration of power. >> are they stronger than the democrats and they know what that is? assembly, parliamentary? >> in...
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w. . ♪ >>> here's the great news for republicans, we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinarily well on wednesday night. >> oh [ bleep ] we got a runner, we got a runner! what are you doing, christie? apparently only new jersey governor chris christie did not get the memo that his party's nominee sucks at this. >> wednesday night's the restart of this campaign and i think you're going to see the numbers move in the other direction. this whole race is going to be turned upside down come thursday morning. >> what are you doing, christie? for god sakes, if romney fails, he's going to lose the general election creating chaos in the republican party and that's going to leave open 2016 -- oh. the jersey is strong in this one. >> welcome to "morning joe," it's top of the hour and howard dean's already inciting problems here. it's tuesday, october 2nd. with us onset we have msnbc mike barnicle. howard dean, and former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst steve rattner,
w. . ♪ >>> here's the great news for republicans, we have a candidate who is going to do extraordinarily well on wednesday night. >> oh [ bleep ] we got a runner, we got a runner! what are you doing, christie? apparently only new jersey governor chris christie did not get the memo that his party's nominee sucks at this. >> wednesday night's the restart of this campaign and i think you're going to see the numbers move in the other direction. this whole race is going to be...
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same thing with dick cheney and george w. bush. just psychologically it's like dick cheney was the grandfather that's been around for a couple times. back to romney. the question is, whether or not vice president biden will make a gaffe or if congressman ryan will say something that's so outlandish like the 47% that would be a game changer. that most likely won't happen. >> like the 30% he's already said? >> that doesn't -- >> it feels to me like the issue is do no harm. the question, the game changer is the -- >> the game changer is to the negative. doing harm. >> he has plenty, ryan has plenty of his own statements to defend. there could be an interesting dynamic where he spirals into defense of the many ludicrous and inaccurate things he's said where biden has more experience and a very clear agenda staying boiled to the president. you know, there is a little bit of a wildcard. maybe not a huge one. but ryan is smart. but also very self-centered. so he could get really caught up. >> i wonder, is there an actual skill to being a
same thing with dick cheney and george w. bush. just psychologically it's like dick cheney was the grandfather that's been around for a couple times. back to romney. the question is, whether or not vice president biden will make a gaffe or if congressman ryan will say something that's so outlandish like the 47% that would be a game changer. that most likely won't happen. >> like the 30% he's already said? >> that doesn't -- >> it feels to me like the issue is do no harm. the...
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hours later, president george w. bush goes to the microphone. >> let me make this very clear, americans will not be intimidated or influenced by an enemy of our country. >> and bush widens his lead, beating john kerry. chris, this election, the october surprise may not come until november the 2rd. that's the day the final jobs report is released that we're all watching. >> we are, and we're still waiting to see the full impact on the polls from this first jobs report. thank you so much, richard lui. and that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. hello, thomas. >> hi, chris. good morning, everybody. >>> the breaking news from pennsylvania, convicted pedophile, 68-year-old jerry sandusky sentenced to at least 30 years behind bars. details on the emotional victim impact statements and the 18-minute first-person explanation from jerry sandusky himself. >>> then, with just 28 days, that's it, left in the presidential race, it has never been tighter and we've got two
hours later, president george w. bush goes to the microphone. >> let me make this very clear, americans will not be intimidated or influenced by an enemy of our country. >> and bush widens his lead, beating john kerry. chris, this election, the october surprise may not come until november the 2rd. that's the day the final jobs report is released that we're all watching. >> we are, and we're still waiting to see the full impact on the polls from this first jobs report. thank...
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w. bush had in his first debate against john kerry. >> the president had an opportunity tonight. he created a problem for himself on social security tonight. he agrees with mitt romney. every liberal in this country knows that mitt romney wants to privatize social security down the road. and to do a deal with the devil on that would be the wrong thing to do. i think the president created a big problem for himself. i don't think he explained himself very well on the economy. i thought he was off his game. i was stunned tonight. rash elyou just mentioned about time, the president needs to get in and fight for that time. there's people that expect him to fight for that time. >> i thought the one thing that mitt romney did tonight that he has not done for the duration of the campaign and was very effective was just lop off the right wing of his party. he didn't care about them tonight. if something was popular, more money for community schools, he was for that. it didn't matter if it would m
w. bush had in his first debate against john kerry. >> the president had an opportunity tonight. he created a problem for himself on social security tonight. he agrees with mitt romney. every liberal in this country knows that mitt romney wants to privatize social security down the road. and to do a deal with the devil on that would be the wrong thing to do. i think the president created a big problem for himself. i don't think he explained himself very well on the economy. i thought he...
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george w. bush, obviously, his prime economic policy was a set of very large tax cuts. they did not have a very positive effect on the economy, even before the recession. it was a very, very weak expansion. and so governor romney has come in and he's proposed very, very large tax cuts again. and he hasn't wanted, in order to get away from the bush part, he hasn't wanted to explain them too much. in fact, paul ryan, his running mate says, the math is just too hard. but it really isn't. and i would imagine the obama administration, or obama's going to go through tonight, you really only need to know two numbers about romney's tax plan, one is $480 billion. that's the cost of it in 2015, just to pick one year. and the other is $251 billion. that's the amount that will go to very wealthy families. now, mitt romney's promise, his tax plan won't cost a dime on the deficit. so he somehow needs to get $480 billion out of the tax code by closing breaks and loopholes, seems like the mortgage interest deduction, and also that it won't be a tax cut on the rich. so about $250 billio
george w. bush, obviously, his prime economic policy was a set of very large tax cuts. they did not have a very positive effect on the economy, even before the recession. it was a very, very weak expansion. and so governor romney has come in and he's proposed very, very large tax cuts again. and he hasn't wanted, in order to get away from the bush part, he hasn't wanted to explain them too much. in fact, paul ryan, his running mate says, the math is just too hard. but it really isn't. and i...
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and michael grisham who is twice in two cycles helped prepare george w. bush for debate was fairly critical on our program before going in and has a column today saying that the tone and the substance of what he presented was much more acceptable to the mainstream of america. and i think that's why you're seeing a movement in the polls whether the numbers are correct or not. we're seeing a trend. >> you know, richard, it seems, even up until the day before the first debate, mitt romney was still running a primary. >> right. >> -- election campaign. and a lot of people, a lot of republicans wondering as well as democrats, why couldn't he make that shift? richard nixon said it famously, when you're primary, you're under the right, the general, under the center. >> makes no sense. honestly, makes no sense and opens him up to the big vulnerability. he had him at last debate. for instance, one of your favorite subjects on simpson/bowles. he goes out and says, you, mr. president, should've embraced simpson/bowles. and one of the rare moments where the president
and michael grisham who is twice in two cycles helped prepare george w. bush for debate was fairly critical on our program before going in and has a column today saying that the tone and the substance of what he presented was much more acceptable to the mainstream of america. and i think that's why you're seeing a movement in the polls whether the numbers are correct or not. we're seeing a trend. >> you know, richard, it seems, even up until the day before the first debate, mitt romney...
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as did george w. bush, i think, in his eight years. so i guess it is human nature to come out and be shocked that somebody's punching you in the face after being so protected and basically play some bubble wrap in four years like we do with our president. >> the president is usually pretty good when the game's on the line. and the game's going to be on the line in two weeks. he's got to perform better or it will be a real problem. i think just to focus on the debates forgets the fact that governor romney needs to perform in the next two weeks. he can't just wait for the next debate. he did a conservative event. he did hannity. i still don't get the logic of his friday. >> how many days out are we, and he is finally -- >> he should do "letterman." >> i get the logic of it. he had a great performance, mika. let it breathe through the weekend. >> willie's "week in review" is next. >>> oh, it is time? >> it is, mika. it's time for "the week in review." >> let's see it. >> at number three, deer lord. >> that was so [ bleep ] radical! >> a l
as did george w. bush, i think, in his eight years. so i guess it is human nature to come out and be shocked that somebody's punching you in the face after being so protected and basically play some bubble wrap in four years like we do with our president. >> the president is usually pretty good when the game's on the line. and the game's going to be on the line in two weeks. he's got to perform better or it will be a real problem. i think just to focus on the debates forgets the fact that...